Mixtape Addict #103

00:00:02: You have now entered the Mixed Tape Addicts Show, Broadcasting every day with The French Connect.

00:00:06: DJ King Flow!

00:00:11: Mr.

00:00:11: Mixed Tape

00:00:12: Attic

00:00:20: from Brandt Ay yo, it's Tyler Farley.

00:00:29: you checking out the mix tape attic?

00:00:31: Where this Bond rocking with DJ King Flo?

00:00:33: Yo what up?

00:00:34: It's your homeboy Ace Hood Rockin' with DJ king Flo.

00:00:37: You know we got that crazy flow to hear ya heard King Flo.

00:00:41: Let's make a move Yo check this out man This shit boy Crazy Bone.

00:00:45: And whenever I'm over in France Kicking it You know what i'm sayin doing my thug thing With the homie DJ King Flow Man keeping it real baby down in France or Lien, y'all know how we do.

00:01:15: I swear they messed up, took me out of my grave.

00:01:21: Mike check one two don't know how to behave.

00:01:24: A-Mama tell the truth please.

00:01:25: Tell me what's good.

00:01:26: Why you take me outta Queens and move me into The Woods?

00:01:28: why your silence in my voice limit every choice?

00:01:31: this here is the reckoning.

00:01:32: so be on point.

00:01:33: sometimes decisions are made without much thought.

00:01:39: Your daddy did some big things, turned dark to light Still shining different than sight and place in the height Got me thinking about them.

00:01:44: Sunday nights Voice boom with ump.

00:01:47: The harmonies was life Supressed with a finish like vest Used to love.

00:01:51: I can't complain when he sang from his chest.

00:01:53: Dreams

00:01:54: bigger then distress End of builds you produce Tried to carry it all.

00:01:57: It's still tallin' is true.

00:01:59: Please mama won't you tell me the truth.

00:02:01: So much has done there so much to do.

00:02:04: They try to tell me that I move like pops.

00:02:22: Maybe so, with so Got all my dad is watch.

00:02:26: Please mama won't you tell me the truth.

00:02:30: So much has done.

00:02:36: it's so much to do.

00:02:42: Try and tell me then how it works?

00:02:44: Maybe so With so, now with my dad.

00:02:47: See JK.

00:02:47: Reflection resonates in a night.

00:02:52: Steal up.

00:02:53: That's the girl of Queens Been documented from their memories past Grimms and pain.

00:03:01: to others Foundations or families It's mostly grip.

00:03:05: My generation dropped the ball.

00:03:06: Yeah I said it is sick.

00:03:08: The chapter for my memoir The best is thick.

00:03:11: So much of this substance over spectacle Wasting the rhythm, walking dead being navigated by algorithms.

00:03:18: This is truth.

00:03:19: accountability that tells you to stay Your latest heroes without a mask and a cape.

00:03:24: I done seen their eyes.

00:03:25: I don't live through love.

00:03:27: after they chose They was looking for a fall?

00:03:30: I was building a rise.

00:03:32: Now be watching every move with the evilest.

00:04:03: The way to sharpen the

00:04:10: blade is not where we walk.

00:04:37: Who's playin' wasamin'?

00:05:41: You knock it on?

00:06:34: Dance?

00:06:50: Oh i'm the respondent in respawn Raiders are.

00:07:05: leave silent now breathe honest.

00:07:08: To rule the phonics in a game I use Knuckles, they are sonic.

00:07:11: Plagues is bubonic.

00:07:13: Swimming and gin and tonic, ironic How it always get the best of me?

00:07:17: I smoke the Dutch on the dusk.

00:07:19: It's hard to trust, jealous ones fool me.

00:07:21: price.

00:07:21: Though i don't deserve a fuck I'm in a hallway surrounded by some Roman busts.

00:07:26: Im tryna live forever.

00:07:27: I ain't trying to have Caesar's luck as much.

00:07:31: You see where we go, fireworks blast.

00:07:33: They

00:07:33: go shot.

00:07:33: that's a street show.

00:07:35: Gotta pay with pride when the heat blow.

00:07:38: Head up to the skies for my feet low.

00:07:42: Now what?

00:07:42: We've gots to do.

00:07:44: Pick up obstacles and make shots possible.

00:07:47: Pay them full.

00:07:48: maybe unlock lockables.

00:07:50: We break the code, padlock be pushed and thrown Gun talk.

00:07:53: Saturday night special.

00:07:55: My son spark Fucked the party up

00:07:57: from the intro.

00:07:58: The fun part.

00:07:59: take your back.

00:07:59: My new boat sneakers,

00:08:00: yeah They don't stop bopping up.

00:08:03: Two five jobbing from the boat dock Peach pears, pomegranates Low quads, doors closed Boats locked.

00:08:09: my life is like a soap opera Tortellini, linguine, fettuccine.

00:08:14: Get mad about it, holla bout when you see me Trike genie with ice gleaming Fuckin' I'm Ice Creamy With the most high Cause.

00:08:22: I don't Like Demi Cause.

00:08:24: I Don't Like Leanin' Like.

00:08:26: i don't like X-rated movies When fight scenes in them Your food is flavorless Needs some spicy seasoning.

00:08:32: And I don't like rappers that rhyme with no reason.

00:08:35: Why the fuck would I ever, ever believe in them?

00:08:38: That's just cover.

00:08:39: you're not seeing us.

00:08:46: This game time in New York put your Timbs on.

00:08:59: DJ Khaled from the garden homie to Nick's zone.

00:09:02: We got whatever for whoever.

00:09:04: bring ya swat.

00:09:06: Fiction face stupid.

00:09:09: it's the Nick's Take squadron, cause the fans are going crazy out of their mission.

00:09:50: And get James Harden and tell Joellen Max he's sweeping over here.

00:09:56: He was made for dust.

00:10:05: me sure they would never win eloquent poetic intelligence.

00:13:00: better with evidence.

00:15:42: head to get severed quick.

00:16:03: the president said we're malevolence veterans didn't want a rap with me.

00:16:06: that shit was evident.

00:16:08: crooked eyes.

00:16:08: names start circulating.

00:16:10: no correlations wooey talk.

00:16:11: i ill pull my way into conversations.

00:16:13: I had some meetings when labels ended up in confrontation.

00:16:16: told me rapping about skill.

00:16:17: it's about compensation.

00:16:19: complicated raps.

00:16:20: don't be hitting on the charts nigga.

00:16:22: forgive What you trying to be a smart nigga?

00:16:25: Disappointed I started drinking hard liquor finger on my motherfucka west coast.

00:16:29: now you

00:16:30: see it.

00:16:31: The ugly truth is the bands are too appealing.

00:16:45: Hands are revealing your motive, i'll make them move.

00:16:48: DJ King Flowns!

00:16:49: Be for body frame for the globe and back the tour veteran

00:16:53: Fans getting sick.

00:16:54: so I feed

00:16:55: em some more medicine.

00:16:56: Im better than any rapper u name in Any upcoming sickin

00:17:00: fame.

00:17:00: doing the same.

00:17:01: I'm shocked to the brain.

00:17:03: Permanent impairment Calling U a suck.

00:17:05: It's not a term of endearment.

00:17:07: The total opposite Shooks oppa shit Me abodin' minds, bigstops shot this shit.

00:17:13: Hard body for them.

00:17:14: hip hop heads.

00:17:15: I am the heartbeat

00:17:15: For people thinkin',

00:17:16: Hip Hop stick.

00:17:18: And if it was i'd bring you back to life.

00:17:20: You ain't never heard a rapper on this track this night.

00:17:52: Fuck fuck!

00:18:09: I'm lost in shawty.

00:19:01: Sheld told.

00:19:02: Sheld Giving lessons To know the stars Living legend Hitting weapons.

00:19:05: Smith and Wesson Throwing cards Large pythons Charred ice on.

00:19:08: Im God Sight on My called judgment Into whatever target.

00:19:12: my sight are Boom Rang rap, spike bat.

00:19:14: raise a blade spit flow Slip throws.

00:19:16: make a toast to your facelift Rep silly shit like a rep till he go.

00:19:20: shit No shit.

00:19:21: smack the last sniff out ya nose drip Blick bluish navy shell Steal with a kick to it.

00:19:26: Hips shoota belly saw me move when they ripped through Slick movements

00:19:30: bang his head even though he skipped Juma.

00:19:32: I wanted lost fights.

00:19:33: less is in sorrow.

00:19:34: Lesson was train harder.

00:19:35: fight him again tomorrow

00:19:37: Hagen!

00:19:38: All thrum!

00:19:55: Order that

00:20:14: pinpoint when i want it.

00:20:16: done Like the direct order become a dying son.

00:20:23: Prime Minister Finney Eider with many drugs KG, to overseer he.

00:20:28: get it done First in Command Bronx region.

00:20:30: yeah we don't want one plus One equal two of us.

00:20:33: that mean you done A run.

00:20:35: I dont mind most never mind folks Never thought i'd chargein' your battery like a

00:20:38: nine volt.

00:20:39: Eyes won't let me deceive myself.

00:20:41: see what I wrote Something I can say with conviction.

00:20:43: See this is a wise quote Point taken.

00:20:45: I got penalized when the verse babes All I'm gonna have to scabble around like its show taping.

00:20:50: I'm uptown with Bronx, niggas do Bronx shit Barry, I get trained by

00:20:54: a train at first to go spit.

00:20:56: This is calm as it gets Toa, I was in the fan pool and just catching a fit Or catchin' a zip.

00:21:02: Yeah, I zipped it off double to flip Backed-up and

00:21:04: just give you the clip.

00:21:05: Why don't you niggaz respondin'?

00:21:07: When I act here they be bondin' Into the following I'm your worst nightmare, I'm a little complodlin' Vendor, happy music or you be saved.

00:22:26: Freshest me made the black hole crazy Brought the stone back to life Made the pipe fresh.

00:24:19: Just me and my friendy I am just the two of us Just to shoot it up.

00:25:12: Let's get it man.

00:25:13: I'm your host King Flo.

00:25:15: welcome to the mixtape attic radio show.

00:25:18: we connecting the platform friends Once again, and today my special guest is none other than Trey Datt in the building.

00:25:27: How are

00:25:28: you bro?

00:25:28: I'm good man.

00:25:29: anything hip hop i am great.

00:25:31: Yes sir.

00:25:32: yes sir we here making them connections bro.

00:25:36: And now it's the mixtape addict show.

00:25:38: so i think u know the tradition and have to ask u man The mixtapatic question who your all time favorite DJ?

00:25:48: Okay, if you want to say all time I'm gonna take it back to my youth in New York City man.

00:25:51: I would say DJ Red Alert without question that was One of my official Introductions is really loving hip-hop?

00:25:58: I will see him and mr.. Magic but I skip at the red alert because red alerts acts with dj.

00:26:02: Mr.

00:26:02: Magic was a host.

00:26:04: um anything fire Hip Hop.

00:26:06: Red Alert played it on this for today's where major commercial radio Was breaking hip hop records.

00:26:12: so yep You was fired Red Alert we'll play you.

00:26:15: I mean there were couple times when He might have just a record that ended up being fired, but he had one of the best A&R years for dope hip-hop at their time.

00:26:23: For long period and making pause tapes.

00:26:26: you know when cassettes was popping having those pause tapes.

00:26:29: like Hip Hop it's everywhere.

00:26:31: there is different energy man love for the craft.

00:26:35: all artists sound different.

00:26:36: everybody has its own style.

00:26:39: The creativity was intense.

00:26:42: Now, sometimes a mixtape might sound like one song.

00:26:44: Like everybody's sound the same.

00:26:46: you know what I'm saying?

00:26:47: Unless you find a DJ that is really in tune with The Streets.

00:26:50: but Red Alert had his ear to the streets for decades man.

00:26:54: To this day nothing more compared than that feeling because it was fresh and new for me at the time You know.

00:26:59: so Red Alert no question

00:27:01: Exactly!

00:27:02: That's why i was about say as uh... One of the pioneers of hip-hop And back here In those days ,like u said..You have be original,you gotta be creative.

00:27:11: You didn't want to sound like the next person.

00:27:14: No, never.

00:27:15: Yeah

00:27:15: That's crazy.

00:27:16: Do you think it is something that is lacking nowadays?

00:27:18: or do you think authenticity comes back into this game?

00:27:22: I would say yes and no from your position.

00:27:25: It was just.

00:27:26: a lot of artists aren't being heard.

00:27:28: There will always be dope artist.

00:27:29: I don't care what John Redd is.

00:27:31: there'll always going to create an artist but the commercial platform is where they are.

00:27:37: The radio isn't in place to break records anyway.

00:27:39: They're making money.

00:27:40: So and a lot of it is I will fault as well because as streaming came along You know, a lot artists you know were falling off As far as you know with the labels in the budgets on labels money and sales going down It became more over business.

00:27:54: And a lot things kind of went haywire from there.

00:27:56: an artist weren't Educated enough sometimes how to carry on and move forward for how to readjust and reinvent yourself.

00:28:03: There's always got to reinvent yourself all the time.

00:28:05: like I stopped dealing with streaming because i just deal with band camp, cause im like if you want to rock with me.

00:28:10: You know your go the bandcamp and stream it from there or you download it form there And then some good and bad with that.

00:28:15: but The whole streaming element Just kind of turn me sour Because its Like everybody's on There.

00:28:19: so you try To do something to make you different?

00:28:21: Like i have a landing site and i deal With Band Camp and i press Some hard copies here in there.

00:28:26: no you Try to be Different.

00:28:27: i connect with DJs like yourself and you Know try to Have my music played all over the place.

00:28:32: So At least my name will have a buzz more so than just getting on Spotify and paying for Spotify promotion, which is another but some bot numbers And I could tell you yeah.

00:28:42: Yeah two hundred thousand strings But you never heard of record.

00:28:44: You know I'm saying so I'm one sooner Just Connecting with DJs like yourself that are being heard in all over different countries.

00:28:51: And this has nothing to do with me.

00:28:52: I'm just saying as an artist general Just reinventing itself and giving yourself a chance To actually be heard and doing things of substance Over things they have style, you know That's what the artists need?

00:29:03: i think thats when The change happened.

00:29:05: You Know What Im Saying With All The Spotify You know, all of YouTube promotion as they call it now.

00:29:11: Where you just have numbers where everything is a number game and what the follow was Everything Is A Number Game?

00:29:15: You Have A Lot Of Artists That Are Just Coming In And Out.

00:29:17: So Revolving Door Revolve Into A Revolved Door Even With The Shows!

00:29:21: You Don't Have Loud Shows Anymore.

00:29:23: People Going Stays And Just Wrapping Over The Record Y'Know?

00:29:25: You Don'T Have The DJ Igniting The Crowd y'Kknow?

00:29:28: YOU DON'T HAVE THE ARTIST.

00:29:30: CONSUMER RELATIONSHIP ANYMORE EITHER!

00:29:32: Yeah You Know What I'm Sayin'?

00:29:34: So It Used To Be A Time.

00:29:35: Well, you felt like you knew an artist because their music was a part of that personality.

00:29:39: Like just to throw random names out there.

00:29:41: red man music were part is his personality A guy like Nas.

00:29:45: when this personality comes You kind of connect up with the music.

00:29:48: now azis talking and doing podcasts or things it had.

00:29:51: Now It fits within the music.

00:29:53: back then we have that with the artists.

00:29:55: We had that connection.

00:29:56: That made me feel like he knew the artist.

00:29:57: so I made him want to buy the product cuz that was.

00:30:00: That was your connection.

00:30:01: and opening up the cassette, looking at the liner notes in all of that stuff.

00:30:04: Social media takes their joy away because The album covers promoted a hundred thousand times before it drops.

00:30:11: Yep

00:30:12: And you have to do that as an artist.

00:30:13: You know I mean back in the days when something dropped...you couldn't wait to get the album cover.

00:30:16: Read the liner note.

00:30:17: Who produced this?

00:30:17: Who produced that?

00:30:19: The shout outs and the pictures and other things like that.

00:30:21: That's really taking a lot of love from the game A lot creativity A lot originality A lot authenticity away from the game, but with that being said as an artist you guys are DJ.

00:30:33: what're you gonna do about it?

00:30:35: I agree with you man.

00:30:36: But i think your doing right thing by just using Bandcamp or on your own website because at end of day most important thing she need is a solid fan base.

00:30:49: It's not like having million views out there.

00:30:56: Like how many people are really going to be?

00:30:59: Fans and supporters of your music?

00:31:02: not a lot, you know.

00:31:04: And when you take it different route then focus on.

00:31:07: You know like you say putting yourself from Ben cam.

00:31:10: It creates that thing That you just said at link between the people in the hardest because you actually purchase from the hardest website or bandcamp page, and you might be one that's gonna make a package.

00:31:25: You know what I'm saying?

00:31:25: Like seal your CD put it in an envelope And ship to the customer.

00:31:30: so thats one way To create a special link with people.

00:31:36: i used do that when i drop my physical project... I do help myself!

00:31:41: I can tell you.. I sealed the cd Puted into an envelope.

00:31:46: Little message, you know for the people that Yeah So so you feel closer to the hardest yeah.

00:31:54: Well I had a on my clothing brand love mad which is short for love makes difference.

00:32:01: Whenever someone bought my clothing I would have a CD out throwing there.

00:32:04: I will always sign it and add a card.

00:32:07: That said the origin of my clothing brain.

00:32:10: And I don't key chains with inspirational things on.

00:32:13: they're always put little things on their.

00:32:16: Because for my thing, man I'd rather have five likes on a post.

00:32:20: If it's five people that actually like what i'm doing then just have one hundred fifty likes and don't connect with anybody you know.

00:32:26: so Like now I'll have a nice network of DJs to where...I feel like I've got good enough connection with the way they trust whatever I say to them.

00:32:35: They trusted me to be genuine.

00:32:37: That means more than meeting twenty thousand DJs.

00:32:43: I have a few DJs that if i send them something, they automatically put it on their radio show or in the next tape before to even hear.

00:32:51: And then you just build up rapport and thats all I can ask for from doing this.

00:32:56: being an MC of more mature age... You know?

00:33:00: I don't really care about going viral because those are like smoking mirrors..I really just care about building that solid Network of people and like you say it within the packaging without your presence yourself.

00:33:12: with how do You communicate?

00:33:14: even when interviews man, we're not doing interview.

00:33:15: I try to give good interviews in good insight because When people hear you talking that could be The first.

00:33:22: then a last time they see your face.

00:33:24: Yeah Or even get your voice?

00:33:25: You know Like some people are boring as hell on an interview.

00:33:28: And i'm thinking like man, you really just don't want people to like you.

00:33:30: bro What's what you're doing?

00:33:32: whatever personality you have is unique within Yourself.

00:33:35: you might Be introspective you might be funny You might have deep stories, whatever it is that makes you you.

00:33:41: You have to represent to the fullest.

00:33:43: every time we had an opportunity do and I heard some people talking about me as artists on a interview they were saying basically was saying i'm in my love era because when I speak on topics try make the best out of it trying connect everything.

00:33:58: being loved life enjoying the fact overcome so much diversity like never looked at music from perspective write what feel.

00:34:07: But what they said, you know it kind of meant something.

00:34:10: I say okay maybe that's it?

00:34:11: Maybe then but i'm doing because... ...I don't rhyme about anything the rock at all yeah.. I don't rime about pitfalls unless I rhyme a bit about a pitfall and solution.

00:34:19: You know I try to be solutions based on my music cause'.

00:34:22: I tried to do in life.

00:34:23: Try to be sometimes don't work out there way but.... I miss that with hip hop too as well when we talk like just the lyrical content And power up their content.

00:34:34: If he made party record He did your best to rock a party.

00:34:37: If it was an introspective record, you did your best to make a point.

00:34:42: And the videos a lot of times would match that.

00:34:45: It wasn't always in The Club... ...it wasn' t always rhyming about getting high.. ..it wasn´t always about calling women all kind of derogatory names Even though nothing new under the sun.

00:34:54: But our music and hip-hop didn't represent That.

00:34:57: if they did speak on that They spoke with us in creative way.

00:35:01: I think we are coming back for that.

00:35:04: It's been so many records, you know like the years have gone by.

00:35:09: Time flies man and people.

00:35:11: there are so many artists nowadays that I think they want to come back to authenticity.

00:35:16: They want something that can relate too You know like they want to hear a rapper that drops a few lines and you have to go back and replay the track To really understand maybe the double and tender in there.

00:35:29: In The music, you know I think we're coming Back to authenticity from all of the interview That i've been doing with all these DJs And All that They pretty much agree that people are tired to hear bullshit.

00:35:40: Music did just wanna come back to that real.

00:35:43: so when you When you Have A vision?

00:35:48: build a fan base, I think nothing can stop you.

00:35:52: You know if...

00:35:53: I think the DJs deserve most of their credit for that because without the DJ just giving them platform to be heard A lot of MC's would quit.

00:36:03: what keeps me going is platforms like yours in different podcasts and also keeps me gone cause whenever i think about it im done with this man.

00:36:13: Im gonna do one more project.

00:36:14: next thing ya'll connect with somebody else.

00:36:17: thats getting your head on another level And then you get reviews from this level and that level.

00:36:22: Then, maybe I'll do a little bit more because enjoy doing it like the music is what brings me joy.

00:36:27: You know politics connected where they can be our asshole.

00:36:30: But when you meet DJs putting forth their effort to put quality sound out there.

00:36:35: That keeps all artists going with true-to-the craft.

00:36:38: Like for me even if i connect with a dj ain't not playing every record I've put out.

00:36:42: It's fine but still support them cause just a piece of the game that we need to be out there.

00:36:48: Like, I know some artists... The only time they'll support a DJ is if their song was on a particular playlist or their song's in a particular show.

00:36:55: and for me thats corny but thats just me.

00:36:57: everybody can move how they wanna move.

00:36:59: once i connect with someone ima connect one day.

00:37:00: ill might just be bored and ill might send you a message yo peace bro.

00:37:04: just give him your shout.

00:37:05: man keep pushing he needs ya when the game man that ain't hurting me.

00:37:08: man that shit took what

00:37:11: ten seconds?

00:37:12: Because you're a real one bro.

00:37:14: It's not everybody that takes the same but thanks to, we have people like you who support DJs because it is a lot of young emcees don't understand the importance of the DJ in hip-hop culture.

00:37:27: cause as I said before streaming platforms and all You know, I remember how it was heavy on the mixtape game in twenty ten, twenty twelve, twenty fifteen something like that before the streaming platform arrived.

00:37:41: They stole the miXTAPE format from us and they turned into a playlist thing you know?

00:37:50: The young people now don't think were introduced properly to the DJ culture and I cannot blame them because it's the way society works.

00:37:59: It didn't put the DJ in front of them so they can understand that, but you know we're still here and shit.

00:38:06: man thank god we have some young ones who actually do their research, know their history to help our history and dj are still able to be booked and be important in the culture.

00:38:18: What is a generational gap?

00:38:20: That hurts too.

00:38:21: like my son grew up hearing hip-hop from me playing it, not just me being an artist but for me playing.

00:38:27: So even though he has certain music listeners too that I don't really rock with He still will listen to Tribecore Quest and you know we'll take the things of their nature.

00:38:35: as a child who remembers be playing Tribecore quest And remember's be playing Onyx and things in our nature.

00:38:41: so he has uh You know well rounded palette saying so We have a lot youth out here basically raised themselves.

00:38:50: So a lot of their music revolves around pain, but a lot them are living within pain.

00:38:54: so that music represents... ...that pain You know like with the whole playlist game That wouldn't have worked back in the days because Back In The Days The transitions Within Their Music were just as powerful As The Music.

00:39:07: you Know what I mean if your going to say that's why When A DJ Plays My Music i love.

00:39:11: when there is a shout out over my music Or There Is Some Cuts Within The Music Im Going To Clip It And Im Going Make A Post Out Of it.

00:39:16: Because I Want You To Feel That feel, I want to bring as an artist.

00:39:20: I wanna bring that feel when hip-hop would make everything stop where the record comes on.

00:39:24: You know what I'm saying?

00:39:25: Everything just stops.

00:39:26: all you hearing is that record When a cut come in and brings it or when that drop comes Or when DJ introduces the record.

00:39:33: i still have love for that Cause thats what introduce me to Hip Hop.

00:39:37: The playlist.

00:39:38: It's just playing songs.

00:39:40: You know, you don't have that vibe and a bunch of songs AND they're playin' like the whole song straight through!

00:39:45: You not bringing it back...you not spinning them back There is no sound effect..there are no DJs introducing their record.

00:39:51: That whole playlist thing takes energy away from hip-hop.

00:39:54: Thats my dislike about it but I dont hate if things change But what we love from the roots in the core of Hip Hop doesn't mean stop doing this because something else gained a little bit popularity.

00:40:06: And that's my problem with MCs, a lot of MC stop rapping because they don't like streaming.

00:40:10: You can tell me as an emcee you stopped emceeing Because you don't stream it.

00:40:14: and I think That the only reason why do you stop is cause you dont like streaming or you think?

00:40:20: You don't have enough followers on social media so nobody wants to hear what your doing.

00:40:24: but A lot of emcees quality emceas stops because of that.

00:40:28: than that you know, killed the purity of a game and authenticity.

00:40:32: It took so many people out it.

00:40:33: but now we got some young guys coming up within The Matrix that aren't fans to The Matrix are putting on good music because easy for lotta artists my age that'll say man nobody's doing this anymore.

00:40:45: You know thats far from the truth.

00:40:46: But theres always artist out here doing good music bro.

00:40:48: Yeah of course man its a dope hip hop going everyday.

00:40:52: We have guy like Riggs like Rome Street You know, like those type of guys may have some bangers and they're young under a thirty years old I think.

00:41:02: So you know...

00:41:03: Let's go!

00:41:04: Real hip-hop is here man it's here to stay.

00:41:06: Yeah

00:41:07: most definitely ain't going nowhere.

00:41:08: Hell yeah man.

00:41:09: And as an artist what has been the biggest challenge in your career?

00:41:14: Well bigger challenges being older MC man getting your sound heard because this visual society so..you gotta be seen You know, you gotta have visual representations of yourself.

00:41:29: The video isn't as powerful it used to be now with some more sold shorts and reels.

00:41:34: Um...you got a final way to present yourself To make yourself interesting.

00:41:37: so that's the challenge.

00:41:39: It's a challenge doing my brand-of hip hop because I don't necessarily Make commercial music for the radio But i'm not totally underground either.

00:41:47: You know what im saying?

00:41:48: Im somewhere in between there.

00:41:49: You know..I can slide to each side but i am neither one.

00:41:54: I have to find my niche and make it, makes sense.

00:41:58: You know that's the biggest challenge.

00:41:59: And you know i live in North Carolina now.

00:42:01: so thats a challenge as well because its not like if ive still in New York... I could probably do three shows a week right there Because those are platforms for artists like myself that rock all week.

00:42:13: Or If I was overseas..I can be doing shows like crazy or on tours.

00:42:17: But you know North Carolina For what im bringing.

00:42:20: The market is kind of small.

00:42:21: Its widespread.

00:42:23: Everything is so far away from each other.

00:42:25: What

00:42:26: part of North Carolina are you

00:42:28: in?

00:42:28: I'm in Durham right now.

00:42:30: Okay,

00:42:31: yeah, I mean there

00:42:32: shit.

00:42:33: if I knew man we should have linked up.

00:42:35: i was In north carolina last year bro We're

00:42:38: pulling alkaline.

00:42:39: what's your win?

00:42:40: I wasn't.

00:42:40: Winston Salem and Charlotte too.

00:42:43: Yeah, when she's selling but I want some change for me Charlotte maybe two hours my niece lives in Charlotte So I go out there frequently all y'all to pull it off.

00:42:50: I definitely pulled up.

00:42:51: But you guys have a dope hip-hop scene out there though.

00:42:54: It's not... I

00:42:55: think it was the dope hip hop scene everywhere, You just gotta know where its at man.

00:42:58: Yeah yeah for real man

00:43:00: You might tell me something about Charlotte that i don't even know.

00:43:03: Everything is so widespread and like.. Im still learning Like im still meeting people in this state That ive never met before And theres alot of people who haven't met in person Because the less time u really had to be in person networking with people You know what I mean?

00:43:23: Some people got kids, you gotta put them to bed.

00:43:25: Or you've got a wife who's gonna maintain or other vocational goals that we have to take care of.

00:43:31: so... That is my real biggest obstacle truthfully and in real man terms just being a person still doing this and having the balance for life loving career because even if your relationship it's a lot cause No, like I could do this interview here that maybe I go to studio then it's like oh damn.

00:43:53: I ain't call my lady shit.

00:43:54: Yeah, you

00:43:56: gotta you got a juggle between your life shit music shit

00:44:01: And you can't wait to do nothing.

00:44:02: if you've got something on the plate just do it Like.

00:44:04: yeah, I'm gonna call later or I'll go to Studio.

00:44:07: Lady.

00:44:07: It's never a later

00:44:09: Yep

00:44:09: for me.

00:44:10: i can lay down for thirty minutes nap and wake up four hours later.

00:44:14: Well, it's not everybody that has the same mindset.

00:44:17: You know Like I say it all the time and you can have all those talent in world.

00:44:21: but at end of day if u don't have to hustle, the motivation do things nothing is gonna happen.

00:44:28: You know?

00:44:29: And shit!

00:44:30: All this like you...you have the motivation..You have vision....and you understand how music business works.

00:44:37: so you're

00:44:39: lucky!!

00:44:40: It's not everybody that has a mindset or entrepreneur.

00:44:46: What are

00:44:47: you doing it for?

00:44:48: I had to ask a young emcee one time, like what he gonna do when you post your song and don't get any likes.

00:44:55: You know me or just going stop rhyming Or keep pushing that song.

00:44:59: It gets a lot!

00:45:02: I got some posts that don't give no likes.

00:45:03: Now i might have posted against the hundred likes And this is same song.

00:45:06: Yeah, yeah, yeah It may be different DJs who played it.

00:45:10: It could be a different clip.

00:45:12: It maybe a different style of clip.

00:45:14: But even with my podcast, you know I got some reels that might be two three thousand.

00:45:18: And i've got some reals.

00:45:19: there might be six.

00:45:21: Does it mean stop going?

00:45:22: You know what i'm saying?

00:45:23: It's a science behind How reels connect and the algorithms come connected With.

00:45:28: is this science behind?

00:45:29: now?

00:45:30: its not like when they used to Be chronological.

00:45:32: Now They really just want you To boost the post.

00:45:34: yep That's What they Really Want.

00:45:36: you Know i'm Saying.

00:45:37: so You know, you just got to figure out what works for yourself man.

00:45:40: Just keep pushing.

00:45:42: that's how I look at it Man.

00:45:43: is he pushing by the time we play one record?

00:45:46: I'm playing on.

00:45:46: hit you with another records in there.

00:45:47: Yeah

00:45:48: There's no secret recipe for that.

00:45:50: No

00:45:51: every hot as its own recipe.

00:45:53: It's different too.

00:45:54: You know every artist is different every person

00:45:57: yeah.

00:45:58: So

00:45:58: it's not gonna be the same strategy For everybody?

00:46:02: No, no like I want do more in person.

00:46:04: things Like oh i gotta go back home into New York for a show with Cusher Preen, with WSB.

00:46:09: My thing is Stoney Broke.

00:46:10: he hit me up about coming to this show and I gotta make way to get out of there.

00:46:14: you know what I'm saying?

00:46:15: Outta the Knicks are killing right now.

00:46:17: Might get up there catch a watch party go live.

00:46:21: it's so different when you meet people alive.

00:46:23: It just so different man Just like doing an interview with you.

00:46:26: that makes our relationship difference because we see where they're gonna look like.

00:46:28: You know what i'm saying.

00:46:29: its just how the game is.

00:46:31: Artists, I think are spoiled from my generation because they're used to people doing everything for them.

00:46:36: They use the other people setting up their interviews that you saw other People set up a promo and marketing used two other people Doing there artworks?

00:46:42: That used to other people do in their bios.

00:46:45: You so other people during the treatment for this videos.

00:46:48: So when you have to do it yourself now for a lot of people It's overwhelming And then makes not want to do with no more because now you're not inspired.

00:46:54: The right cuz got to do all these other things you know same like for me.

00:46:58: That's the fun part, man.

00:47:00: Me sending you a bio that's the phone park or trying to create some artwork?

00:47:04: That's The fun part of me.

00:47:04: You know what I'm saying representing myself the way i want To be represented and making the kind Of hip-hop that i wanna hear Myself.

00:47:11: yeah

00:47:12: but for Some people What i just said is inspiring.

00:47:15: it's overwhelming For them

00:47:17: this week because you Know your sound And you have the vision you understand Your lane.

00:47:24: so

00:47:25: Yeah

00:47:27: It's not everybody down that has us lame because everybody wants to maybe sound like the next person so they can get a buzz, but no.

00:47:36: Like we said before... Everybody is unique and different.

00:47:39: So everyone's got his own lane or their own sounds.

00:47:42: It want you understand that there are no limits to this shit.

00:47:47: Yeah for sure.

00:47:49: And... Shit man What come in now?

00:47:53: I know just dropped the tracks with DJ clip styles.

00:47:57: What's going for you, for your twenty-twenty six and beyond?

00:48:00: Well what I actually did...I put two free downloads on Bandcamp.

00:48:05: That still got another joint called Clear Vision And I'ma drop a mix that Glypstiles did..that was the best of last year that i never put out.

00:48:15: imma put dat on Bandcam For Free.

00:48:17: Then I have an EP.

00:48:18: I did from my father when Giant Sleep Imma Put Dat For Free.

00:48:22: then in August Imma put out a ten song album.

00:48:25: Nice.

00:48:26: You know, I've been doing all EP's.

00:48:27: so imma do a ten song album and probably sometime in August try to get some sync license.

00:48:33: with that.

00:48:34: Im gonna push down on it a little bit different.

00:48:38: That might be my exit man.

00:48:39: you know i say this all the time.

00:48:40: I don't know that might be last project.

00:48:42: I'll probably do singles here or there.

00:48:47: Don't say that, man.

00:48:49: If it's in your brother bro you can never say this is the last project I know as an artist how do feel.

00:48:54: there are a lot of people who said that.

00:48:56: But when they're really passionate one day we gonna wake up and be like damn let go back to studio.

00:49:02: Well i can say this too man.

00:49:04: Anybody have heard me saying that?

00:49:06: They not listenin' anyway.

00:49:09: How many artists tell you its going to be their last?

00:49:10: It has been Jay-Z last record for ten years.

00:49:16: So, but the name of that album in August is going to be called No Industry Required.

00:49:20: And um you know let's basically say I don't need to initially do what i'd do.

00:49:23: this Is What I love.

00:49:25: so even if I said That was my last project not really classed physically But it might Be My Last.

00:49:30: as far As Pushing Projects I Might Just Do Singles and just Keep Banging Music Here In There.

00:49:36: but as Far As Putting Our Album Together Like I'm Gonna Do This yeah that might be it because imma have a You Know Total Conceptual.

00:49:43: All My EPs are Conceptual.

00:49:44: You know what I mean?

00:49:45: They're all different.

00:49:46: The style is different on all of them, so it's like hard to listen the one project of mine and say okay this is what trade-out is unless you really introspectively thinking everything is different love makes a difference was all revolved around Love.

00:49:58: um...the experience with just a boom back album..you know i did a soul trade album which was a hip hop soul project had blood sweat and tears which was more so.

00:50:07: the thought process over an adult emcee....I mean there are whole lot things that got on band camp.

00:50:12: thats nothing I loved about Bandcamp.

00:50:14: Everything is cataloged right there, you know and all the botching stuff just turned me off to Spotify.

00:50:19: honest Like he ain't really making no big money off it anyway.

00:50:22: So I'll just quit.

00:50:23: You don't mean people that want to hear what i do.

00:50:26: they go to band camp.

00:50:27: They're going on my website Or be on my socials?

00:50:30: I don't think im losing anything by not being on social media.

00:50:33: I'm streaming services.

00:50:35: so Im got music thats on The digital platforms but thats from before.

00:50:39: But I stopped using those like maybe two years ago.

00:50:41: You know James, so I don't think i'm going back to him.

00:50:46: No, no Apple music maybe but

00:50:50: if that works for you this way then should keep going like that.

00:50:54: Yeah

00:50:55: everybody with available on all platforms yeah That shit be pissing me off

00:51:01: People that don't use platform's like.

00:51:03: I've seen Shit tech from Smith & Wesson.

00:51:07: he dropped a mixtape not too long ago And he did not put it on streaming platform.

00:51:12: He used his own website, if I'm not mistaken.

00:51:15: You saw people on

00:51:16: Instagram say If you want to mix tape there was only one place To get in and its right here.

00:51:21: so...

00:51:22: Yeah Tech is dope!

00:51:23: I like that.

00:51:23: I know RJ Payne Was doing this for a long time.

00:51:26: He was selling things Right from the website.

00:51:29: So my knowledge actually did Very well with him because he has a sound Unique of himself.

00:51:35: Go ahead and try.

00:51:36: man On Bandcamp, yo within the first two weeks I was on band camp.

00:51:42: I mean i made more money that would have been streaming Within three weeks.

00:51:46: you know what?

00:51:46: So but the key when You do something on a website or in band camp is how Do you consistently bring traffic to your location?

00:51:54: You Know that's that'll be the challenge and earlier you asked question about it.

00:51:57: challenge That's actually a challenge.

00:52:00: You know even getting views on YouTube.

00:52:03: You know that's a challenge now as compared before because now everything is ad-driven.

00:52:08: You know, dealing with YouTube you got to do the Google ads and all of those things And with Bandcamp we gotta find out how to drive traffic.

00:52:17: So that becomes a challenge as well.

00:52:19: A lot MCs give up on it But I'm wondering where.

00:52:23: maybe this week nobody came in my sight.

00:52:25: Maybe their five long weeks or thousands people can't Like with Band Camp.

00:52:28: i look at the numbers.

00:52:29: I've had three four days when no one has come into my band camp.

00:52:31: Then suddenly next day hundred twenty people went on.

00:52:34: today It could be anything From the YouTube story, that's why I put so many stories up because people go through my stories and it's revolving door.

00:52:41: And before you know it... Oh boom!

00:52:43: Tradeouts on another mixtape.

00:52:44: Oh tradeout is one of them in a radio show.

00:52:45: Tradeouts On The Charge again.

00:52:46: then you might see a workout video.

00:52:49: You know what i'm saying?

00:52:50: So That works for me.

00:52:52: just keeping people fully engaged at their next thing..you know I hit you with new record.

00:52:55: Boom Then that might make your go to the bandcamp bling.

00:53:00: Yeah he doesn't matter platform you're using as long as the product is being heard, it's been seen.

00:53:06: I

00:53:07: see guys that are doing not video clips but like reels on Instagram and can only find a piece of video ONLY on Instagram.

00:53:16: they don't drop it on YouTube.

00:53:17: It's crazy!

00:53:20: But people see it no matter where they see it.

00:53:23: As

00:53:24: funny to say because i do Need to get back on putting my YouTube shorts up I kind of fell off for my youtube shorts.

00:53:31: So, i've been using Twitter... ...I have been using threads and two Facebook pages but I haven't sleeping on the shorts because that was my plan actually anything music or podcast related.

00:53:44: to put it you know with my shorts and just let it.

00:53:47: you Know.

00:53:48: yeah do that trickle late there And I slept all night.

00:53:51: It gets too big grueling sometimes When you're the only one doing it, try to schedule as many posters.

00:53:56: You can schedule and be consistent... I don't get bored with because this is my stuff but when have a regular life of a main change.

00:54:04: sometimes i'll get on from work.

00:54:06: I tried to schedule a couple posts before laying down making phone calls.

00:54:10: Sometimes they just don't work that way.

00:54:11: Yeah,

00:54:12: I understand man

00:54:13: If we look at the phone And see glasses on..I need glasses for real.

00:54:17: these ain't prescription.

00:54:18: I gotta put some mini joints.

00:54:20: You know, you're looking at the phone and all the words start coming together.

00:54:23: The screen is doing this Yeah I like to drop light.

00:54:28: if you drop a show in our morning, I'm not gonna lie to you man.

00:54:32: I still get excited hearing somebody say trade out or here in the scratches on my record?

00:54:37: I can't wait to go find where my record Is that?

00:54:39: so i could make a clip you know saying like That's how i don't think i'll ever lose that joy.

00:54:45: yes because he have their passion.

00:54:46: your passion

00:54:48: Yeah,

00:54:49: well it's you know.

00:54:50: if your droppler won't one real a day or every two days for One month two months three months You're gonna be winning.

00:54:57: both the views are going to go up.

00:54:59: That's a fact.

00:55:00: yeah.

00:55:01: Yeah man while we have only ever few minutes left in this convoy Do he have any last words men?

00:55:07: For your fans across the globe

00:55:10: I mean just follow.

00:55:10: trade out man.

00:55:11: trade our music.

00:55:12: boys.

00:55:12: trade that trade podcast.

00:55:14: Apple podcast called The blackmail podcast.

00:55:17: um We just some grown men.

00:55:19: Just talking about living life, man and surviving as a father through the different obstacles of life because sometimes we talk sports Sometimes we talk hip hop but those are things that you know.

00:55:30: men talked about.

00:55:32: Music band camp trade dot.

00:55:36: I got my own site.

00:55:37: trade out music.

00:55:38: calm Just check me on man.

00:55:41: I try to stay consistent with the music.

00:55:43: like I say The album will come out in August.

00:55:47: On the podcast, we got new episodes that came out on Saturdays

00:55:50: A.M.,

00:55:50: We're on YouTube, Apple Podcast... We up to episode one eighty or something like that?

00:55:58: Pushing two hundred episodes!

00:56:00: We had way more than two-hundred episodes but were encountering them at the beginning and started off as three people.

00:56:04: now it's just myself from my brother T.S.. I love podcasts because its another form of expression.

00:56:12: Hip hop Another form of expression where you can really, really dig into different records.

00:56:17: That's why I'm kind of disappointed with some of the MCs off my age range how they don't use their platform to just talk to people.

00:56:25: man There are so many ways You can express yourself in hip-hop

00:56:30: So many stories to be told, you know.

00:56:32: Yeah it's like yourself as a DJ.

00:56:34: You probably see certain DJs and wonder why they don't break records.

00:56:36: It's just like while are playing the same record that everybody plays?

00:56:40: You got a platform your popular now not get in at beginning trying To build the name.

00:56:45: okay I ain't mad at you man But you've gotta name every once in awhile.

00:56:48: throw something out there.

00:56:49: yeah We can tell me you don't have good music In your inbox.

00:56:53: boy i'm not trying to do this.

00:56:55: Every DJ you can't Tell Me you Don't Have One or Two Artists.

00:56:58: You can showcase once in a while.

00:56:59: I'm sure you're just overwhelmed, iIm just glad that... ...i'm at the point when i send you something and listen to it.

00:57:04: That's like the key because.. ..i know u might get thousands per day if not five or ten thousand per day.

00:57:11: And just to have it where a DJ actually listens to what your saying thats half of the battle.

00:57:18: Just being heard.

00:57:18: Thats half- And If YOU hear it and play It means other DJs are gonna look for it and wanna listen.

00:57:25: Because some DJs, the copycat DJ's they might listen.

00:57:28: Let me see what King Flow is doing.

00:57:29: all he played that.

00:57:30: let Me check and see if I got this in my inbox.

00:57:32: Yeah Maybe said it to me before.

00:57:36: That

00:57:39: happened a couple times on.

00:57:40: now i'm never mad those djs man as long as you play good music You know?

00:57:43: Well, that still research you don't mean.

00:57:45: if there's a personal research Yep Then but she that's that's the power when building a network.

00:57:50: And I think a lot of younger artists Don't realize The power and the relevancy of building a network.

00:57:58: And getting these spins from DJs that are reputable, doing these shows and presenting yourself in a powerful way You know what I'm saying?

00:58:08: Even a person just seeing their thumbnail or your face talking Everything has to represent you In some kind of way.

00:58:15: That's

00:58:16: your calling guard!

00:58:17: That is your resume.

00:58:19: Shout out to everybody who is pursuing their dreams Keeping the culture alive.

00:58:23: We are we have to say man.

00:58:25: Well, that was a pleasure to have you on the show.

00:58:27: trade out Man.

00:58:27: I wish in nothing but success.

00:58:29: and we had a mixtape addict.

00:58:30: so You know?

00:58:31: We have your music playing, you know on repeat in this show letter people no.

00:58:37: And as how he do it man from friends to U.S.. Bro Thanks for your time.

00:58:41: trade-out

00:58:41: most definitely nixon six.

00:58:43: yes sir i hope they win.

00:58:47: Peace man.

00:58:48: take care

00:58:48: all right my man.