Mixtape Addict #72

00:00:18: You have now entered the mixed tape addicts show, broadcasting every day with the French Connect, DJ King Flow.

00:00:35: But now suddenly I'm an outcast.

00:00:37: You got ninety-nine problems and I'm an empath.

00:00:40: It was till death.

00:00:41: do us part.

00:00:41: We was fools of jazz.

00:00:43: Now the beef is on with your king-tea trifling ass.

00:00:46: Wasn't supposed to feel this kind of pain?

00:00:48: Every day, Black Sunday, I'm Queen of Black Rain Digital underground send drums and click baits.

00:00:53: Now it's a black moon.

00:00:54: whenever you enter the stage You better ask somebody for you, yo, yo, switch the topic.

00:00:58: Having to tell you back to fuck up from my precious onyx I'm calling Baze with Master Ace to slaughter house shenanigans To just protect your neck, this conscious door.

00:01:05: that's out the match pit.

00:01:06: I'm trying to see you feel us next week.

00:01:16: See you next week, I love you, I'm in on you.

00:01:17: Next, like the heel on the purplish, we makin' no evidence, like give me the loot, ready to live, pass the shiv and assemble the truth, though Ible, yah yah yah, while we shivin' I recruit queens, the crown of one comes with the two, it's Nina, Brown, Simone, all the ones in the two, meaning I'm New Jack City, Russell, solo or crew, meaning I'm four women, eighty-eight kids in the troupe, meaning I'm spooky inside and pookie out of the boot, meaning my two kids will ride and put the floor on the roof, meaning I really wrote the DJ King Claw Ruthless aggressor, necessary by nature, gavel on the court of skeptics Dispens gestures, make private examples of investors Decepticons, invested transgressors, we call them psalms.

00:02:38: Skin up, they palm, make them clutch Himalayan salt, then give them balm.

00:02:42: Uniformed, Diane Gard.

00:02:43: and Gard is sowing the roof Laying elevated canopies, ascending sleeves.

00:02:48: The opposition fears my acknowledgement.

00:02:50: They fear the contagious nature of this power plant's embodiment.

00:02:53: Poisonous jazz, garden of divine protection, ammo when healing oils, recoil them into great flesh, likeness, they try to sage the vices, dark threats to my energy, light weight in my bright rights.

00:03:04: I am more than a queen or a king, hand raised in the center of the ring.

00:03:09: My determination meets my destiny, that shifts me.

00:03:16: And if I'm a star, raise the bar, that shifts me.

00:03:53: This track up like this long.

00:04:41: And until now, the moment to be one of the best life to see is

00:05:35: one of Norma's performances.

00:05:39: Stunner, the evening.

00:05:40: enormous left street corners get from them and all the chicks

00:05:43: love them.

00:05:44: the author forcing this

00:05:45: Z more or less e-plug a best on them.

00:05:50: I'm still spending eighty six money quick truck soon as these dudes get caked up banged up soon as they step foot on it.

00:06:01: if I get that love what I deserve a feel is hard to put.

00:06:09: it hurts.

00:06:09: like the present many different dudes that's took your pass and stole it very true for lies and leave it half decoded.

00:06:23: if it ain't adding up through the math exposure it's the vision that's even more complicated.

00:06:28: after covid i feel it's time now don't be the last to know it.

00:06:38: As

00:06:55: laborious work, I perform within assortment of tortured recordists.

00:06:58: The bad, less traveled, has an

00:07:00: additional fork that leads to enlightenment, which happens

00:07:02: to be right where my studio door is.

00:07:04: Rest assured, there's no noise ordinance, so poised during performance on Epical Jordan's endorsement.

00:07:09: I prefer to speak in chords and choruses, lovingly adorned

00:07:13: with a bunch of abhorrent horseshit, yo.

00:07:15: Let me get my notes together.

00:07:16: I put raw quotes together Like God.

00:07:18: put haulin' notes together.

00:07:20: Fuckin' with me is a hopeless endeavor.

00:07:22: I'm too focused and clever.

00:07:23: Go get her knowin' better.

00:07:24: Throw every letter you've

00:07:25: ever wrote in a

00:07:26: shredder.

00:07:26: I've come across poetry better On a truck stop lavatory door.

00:07:30: We

00:07:30: ain't in the same category.

00:07:32: Our strategy should be to practice in the

00:07:34: laboratory more When the dust and the ink settles I'll be at prince level.

00:07:47: When I'm gone I'll be at my sense level.

00:07:51: But for now I got a thick schedule.

00:07:53: Since I had a kid I ripped several pages out.

00:07:55: I'm adamant about my time, I can't for to share.

00:07:58: If you let us skip to town, you can

00:08:06: twack Scott writing that his sad squat citing the artificial intelligence inevitably outshoot.

00:08:22: Some say I judge myself harshly, but soon human creativity will mostly be for show like parsley.

00:08:27: But dying greed, telling my children I gotta rest differences or throwbacks like carried up those Instagram jumpin'.

00:08:42: Shit.

00:08:42: the love is in the unexplicable, licked fresh you get.

00:08:44: I'm hovering way up up up against your eggs in one bag.

00:09:02: Woke up today, new beats, new emails, mis-cores.

00:09:07: Hoosin' that what happened?

00:09:09: I'ma eat breakfast, I'ma eat breakfast, I'ma eat breakfast, I'ma eat breakfast, I'ma eat breakfast, I'ma eat breakfast, I'ma eat breakfast, I never done shit on these streets, y'all all digital

00:10:14: Cyberduck fuck boys, y'all get no love.

00:10:16: Cloud Jason trolling on the internet for them bucks Low self esteem to do anything for that.

00:10:21: getty green Hustler, he the

00:10:23: sound of the money machine I'd rather do.

00:10:25: real estate gangsters these days Don't even make it past the interstate.

00:10:28: All that back and forth is out of style.

00:10:30: Waste the time, waste the lawyers Fighting trials, beating up fiends.

00:10:33: You can see the pain in my smile Pain in my eyes, never despised Force character, study the game, no amateurs Pro black boy, bring it on And tell me this moment ain't mine.

00:11:08: So I bust a flex a plein temps.

00:11:10: De maintenant pas de stand by, ce monde est plein de vibes.

00:11:13: Donc je m'installe bien calme, chez moi partout Tout plein d'amour, comme des cartouches, notre art touche La source est ainsi l'art de pousse Game time, il faut que ça sonne classique Vu que le temps est volatile, mais à part la jeunesse que volatile Des Hommes à Gilles Sculptes et comme l'Argile Sans être restreint par le destin que l'on appelle C'est là de faire du buzz.

00:11:32: Pas de batte, gale, batte, gamme.

00:11:34: Que des vrais, tueuses, vive, tueuses.

00:11:35: Fourre ton trésor avec les mains, tu creuses Galactique, flots, interstellaires, comme l'année Buleuse.

00:11:42: Moi qui dis l'association infabuleuse Faut que les lapelles.

00:11:44: Toujours une impression de spirculant.

00:11:48: I have to go to the gym and stop the effects.

00:12:00: No need to do the seductive.

00:12:05: When you talk to us, we know that it's from the wind.

00:12:16: When we rap, we know that it comes from the heart No matter the sector Because we have a microphone, we know how to do it.

00:13:02: With these truths, you come from Morocco, Canada or even the Eritrea.

00:13:11: Sometimes the effect is deserved.

00:13:16: It's the effect of merited Game time You heard?

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00:14:43: They got me cuffed up, DJ King's blow, shackles on my feet, hard to stand up Next to someone else from the waist up, one bus ride.

00:14:53: I'm twenty-three, my

00:14:56: suicide watch, a tent of murder

00:14:58: charge Trying to have a nigger ride, cause I'm

00:15:04: facing twenty-five

00:15:08: And the lawyer needed me, judges in cahoots, building up a case.

00:15:14: I ain't drugs, need out this jumpsuit, need some spot tents, stomach crumbling Ribs under gates, so my partner get sleep, I'll see you on a beat, I'm tired of him.

00:15:30: It's like Amanda, it's the fear of the black man.

00:15:42: I damage any challenge that you are ruga-spittin' Like Adidas, I ain't everywhere.

00:15:47: I wanna be, accurately like bots through the spots The B.I.G.

00:15:59: repetitively playin' this song Two pence on their bottles, threes if I fuck the round, but big boner to a brand of a newbie and slow me down.

00:16:21: Now I'm out here goin' stupid, cuz cupid them.

00:16:24: fuck the round And me fall in love with music, curated from the same wild.

00:16:32: What I feel in love with your passion and massive, yeah, I want this.

00:16:50: Fuck, I'm bitein' from Koojirak To the riches was my vocal

00:16:55: movie, you could say

00:16:56: that Before I knew cocaine crack, a heroin addict I scribbled in no past, my verse all beats from himatic Fanatic and understatement.

00:17:04: Sabotage, debate men Playing knobs, big L and hack When your pen had to spill, pass from quest saying your coke Let's bring him that

00:17:13: classic quiz, yeah I wonder where this culture be if it didn't exist.

00:17:16: But all the finals, the presets and the

00:17:18: digital did.

00:17:20: A special shout out to the legends who still in the mix Even the ones I grew up up in like twisted shit Even stills.

00:17:28: it wasn't for ECE.

00:17:43: I might go to the trap, even fuck with some drip, didn't know what type of vibe I would move.

00:17:49: I rock with some dillas, J-Elect with some doom.

00:17:51: Then I go to some tech, nine bones, thugs in them too.

00:17:55: I'm just speaking my truth, from the streets to the boom.

00:17:58: Now I can't say a rite or rap, I don't

00:17:59: know what I do.

00:18:01: DJ Frankie D got the music.

00:18:03: I'll miss it

00:18:03: losing out Her King Tim the third Helping me choose my route Talking at Master G and getting big

00:18:09: bang Ladies craving at Wonder

00:18:11: Mike Sugar Hill gang Dope.

00:18:13: it is that we called it cold press.

00:18:15: T-Lock Rock said it's yours, and we stampin' it like the gold rush.

00:18:19: Shy Rock, and she can't be stopped, gave them boys more reason to be funky for a super rockin'.

00:18:24: furious, hella so mysterious.

00:18:27: Zulu Nation, Cosmic Force, Post and Lisa Lee, at the top of the key.

00:20:21: We ain't done, get foolish, when we used to crash and prove.

00:22:26: DJ King, I can't do it.

00:23:21: See how they praise for my return, all in the comments section.

00:23:24: DJ King flow, they couldn't stop me if they wanted to.

00:23:28: My reputation makin'.

00:23:29: worry what I'll come and do.

00:23:31: They can't drive people waitin' for my resurrection.

00:23:34: See how they praise for my return.

00:23:36: all in the comment section, if they wanted to My reputation makin' worry what I'll come and do.

00:23:44: I started in the lab like a guinea pig.

00:23:47: Now a days it's like

00:23:48: you lit based off

00:23:49: people you business with Flee like SoundScan.

00:23:53: I've been around champ,

00:23:55: Afghan Cush straight from Iran.

00:23:58: Can't nobody say that I ran Like Michael Myers on the prowl, make it there when I can And hunt him down, hold me strapped.

00:24:05: It's a losing battle, being authentic Gotta have that bread to

00:24:09: see them.

00:24:09: hoes get.

00:24:09: submit.

00:24:10: Life was harder than all my best choices, all I'm risking Some suckers as well, we isn't rappers from my county Know that I'm the biggest Mr.

00:24:20: Thirty-One about his business.

00:24:22: Shall I be party in the snitches?

00:24:24: Bloggers chatting bout some shit they not involved with.

00:24:27: Claiming the civilian mean you like to call the law quick.

00:24:30: I ain't not heard beefin' bout some Pussy that we all hit, low-sea enterprise Where we imported all dry people, a resurrection.

00:24:41: See how they praise from my return, all in the comment section.

00:24:45: They couldn't stop me.

00:24:46: if they wanted to My reputation make them worry what I'll come and do.

00:24:51: They keep driving people in my resurrection.

00:24:55: How they praise from my reputation, take your place, boy, I'm coming DJ King's vlog, crack, in a project so welfare Just flipping them food stamps, Puerto Rican, but I grew up Living with blacks, cutting the floor, McDonald's super, cause we made it from scratch.

00:25:31: We was pulled, fucked up, yo niggas was doing bad.

00:25:35: We had good times in the hood.

00:25:36: A nigga could feel glad, not getting shot, a stab, snitched on.

00:25:42: Locked up going hand in hand, fuckin' with them.

00:25:44: grams My mans, they own barbershops and grocery stores.

00:25:48: They don't floss at all, you would think them niggas is Paul?

00:25:52: With vending machines with flywood that'll open your pores.

00:25:55: Niggas lined up for the work like fiends out at a sneaker store On a pedestal with dudes, ain't even credible.

00:26:02: Your street cred not eligible, like bro, who the hell are you?

00:26:06: I don't see the eyebrows raised when they mention you.

00:26:09: I'm a day one brass to live niggas.

00:26:11: That's what I'm telling you.

00:26:55: Why you lack these indie functions?

00:26:57: not saying nothing head bump in front and discussing

00:27:00: something I don't fuck with.

00:27:01: You're like friends to me.

00:27:02: I live.

00:27:02: the creed of public enemy can't trust.

00:27:04: it ended discussion.

00:27:06: your dead.

00:27:06: in substance I've seen so many plummet from atop that summit going coming Olden young ins holding on and covet.

00:27:13: all that glimmers golden hoes discovered clothes and all them shows and public cuckolders game over closed.

00:27:20: it was no more budget.

00:27:21: All that race and chasing clout when impatient quit gratification You'll never slept on couches house to house while trying to find a routing Climbing up that

00:27:30: mountain counting

00:27:31: all them blessings never doubting fighting endless vows

00:27:35: daging Here the people shouting on comes the vicious mistress

00:27:39: seen so many bitches die for.

00:28:22: Yo yo, can you hear me?

00:28:25: Peace, yes I can.

00:28:26: Good day, good day.

00:28:28: Yeah, good day to you too.

00:28:30: We're here at a mixed apathetic show.

00:28:32: I'm your host, Kid Flo.

00:28:34: I have my special guest, Emily MC in the building.

00:28:37: How are you?

00:28:38: Peace,

00:28:39: peace, peace and positives.

00:28:41: I am staying positive.

00:28:42: How is your spirit

00:28:44: today?

00:28:45: Good, good, good.

00:28:47: You know, we're connecting the dots, you know?

00:28:49: From France to the US, that's how we do it.

00:28:53: That's the mixtape panic show we hear.

00:28:55: I think you know the tradition of the show.

00:28:57: I have to ask you, you know, before we get into, you know, getting to know you better.

00:29:02: But who is your all time favorite DJ?

00:29:06: Oh, tough question.

00:29:09: I love this question though.

00:29:11: Shout out to the DJ pillar of hip hop.

00:29:14: Very important pillar, foundational.

00:29:18: I'm sure I may have additions and honorable mentions, but I have to say my favorite DJ is Mr.

00:29:27: C. Rest in Peace, Rise and Love, Rest in Beats, Mr.

00:29:31: C. I used to listen to actually DJ Cool Red Alert and Mr.

00:29:37: C used to have like this hour slash two hour slot on Hot Ninety Seven in New York City and they were still doing it when I was growing up and It was hard to catch Red Alert all the time, but I remember several times catching Mr.

00:29:55: C. And what was dope is you'd get real hip hop, you'd get maybe something that was hot at the time, maybe, but you'd get real.

00:30:07: feel it in your skin and your ribs and your gut and your soul hip hop.

00:30:11: And then you'd also get funk R&B from.

00:30:17: you know some obscure B-side on the late seventies and maybe like some some new wave sample you know from the early eighties.

00:30:28: and you just get this like colorful array of musical history but always connecting it right back.

00:30:38: to hip hop.

00:30:39: and it was just.

00:30:39: it was like it was an education and it was.

00:30:42: it made you want to dance and it was bright and it was soulful.

00:30:46: and I thought he was just.

00:30:47: he was giving just such a beautiful display of not only like what hip hop is and like what the community is but like who we are as people.

00:31:00: so Mr.

00:31:01: C like always in my memories for sure.

00:31:04: Yup, yup, I think you say the right words, you know, education, and you know, those musical colors that you put together, you know, hip-hop, R&B, blending, you know, genres together.

00:31:16: And we miss Mr.

00:31:18: C, you know, a rest in peace to the legend.

00:31:20: I remember hearing his mix shows, you know, even out there in France, you know, when you heard the mix show that he was doing, it kind of, you know, puts you into that, that New York ambience, you know.

00:31:31: Ah,

00:31:32: very good, very nice, yeah.

00:31:35: Yeah, I miss him so much.

00:31:37: Yeah, just such a... When you listen to a Mr.

00:31:40: C mix, it's like you were pulled into a world and you almost didn't... I remember distinctly every time his mix was ending and everybody who knows, he puts the... the sound on and he's, first he plays the champ is here on the way in and then on the way out it says like and like the champion he is he goes out and you hear that applause and then you have this like come down almost like you were high almost like you were in a trance.

00:32:09: it's like he really pulls you into a world and it's also why it's an education not just on the mix not just on the music and the sample side but it's also an education of how to DJ, like how MCs is like, there's MCing and there's songwriting, but then there's moving the crowd and lyricism.

00:32:31: Those are different skills.

00:32:32: With the DJs, like, yes, there's curating and there's finding samples and there's like shopping beats, but mixing and putting together a mixed show

00:32:46: and

00:32:47: understanding timing and beats per minute and blending and transitions.

00:32:52: Those are DJ skills that, you know, we need to keep, you know, prominent, but also that gets overlooked a lot.

00:33:00: And to me, those are the marks of a real, real top tier DJ.

00:33:05: And he just

00:33:06: checked all those boxes.

00:33:08: Yeah, because like we say, he's able to bring you into his own world and blending music genres together and keeps you going for hours and hours.

00:33:17: Sometimes you don't even hear the transition.

00:33:20: Yeah,

00:33:20: you just find

00:33:21: yourself totally, totally,

00:33:25: yeah.

00:33:25: Yeah, it's an art form.

00:33:27: It's like Jazzy Jeff, guys like that.

00:33:30: They're able to play hip-hop, they can play reggae, they can play rock and roll, R&B, pop music.

00:33:36: Mix it all together, but it all makes sense.

00:33:38: You know, they're using the DPM.

00:33:40: They're using the melodies, the sample use, you know, it's a science.

00:33:46: Yeah, it's a science.

00:33:47: It's an art form.

00:33:48: And it's a point of view.

00:33:49: It still comes from the soul of a person.

00:33:51: And that's why I just got out of a meeting where people were all talking about AI.

00:33:57: And it's like, that's one thing.

00:34:00: Well, there's many things that AI will never be able to do.

00:34:02: But like, AI will never have a soul.

00:34:05: It will never be able to, you know, have a stream of consciousness and receive inspiration from some other unknown, mystical, whatever we want to call it.

00:34:17: So it's like, I know a lot of people say, oh well, I'll just be a DJ.

00:34:23: All I need is Serato and this and this and that and, you know, whatever.

00:34:27: But it's like, you're still gonna need a point of view to be any type of notable anything.

00:34:33: It still needs to come from your soul.

00:34:35: and I know some people feel like the soul is optional these days but no soul will always be necessary and that's why the hip hop we love is the hip hop we love because that's where we feel it.

00:34:46: Of course we all need soul.

00:34:47: you know every artist needs soul.

00:34:49: you're going to sound like somebody else or sound like a robot you know.

00:34:53: Yes sir.

00:34:54: You gotta have soul, you gotta have a message to give with your music, or even with your heart, you know, you don't need to be music.

00:35:00: You can be paintings, you can be poems, whatever, you

00:35:03: know.

00:35:04: That's what makes us humans.

00:35:06: You know, it's that.

00:35:07: Our brains, you know, that AI, it's cool, you know, for some things.

00:35:11: AI is cool.

00:35:12: For some things.

00:35:13: But, you know, it will never replace the humans.

00:35:15: That's important to mention,

00:35:18: you know.

00:35:18: Yes, sir.

00:35:19: Yup, yup.

00:35:20: And we're going to talk about mixtapes too, because you know it's the mixtape panic show.

00:35:24: So after that, do you miss the mixtape format?

00:35:29: Ooh, confirmation.

00:35:30: Guess that's a yes, she does.

00:35:34: Yeah, man, that was also in a major transition that I've been able to witness.

00:35:43: And I remember when it was just going from, you got to go to the barbershop, or the bodega or the t-shirt spot to go get the mixtapes or DVDs to go get the physical mixtape itself like you had to go somewhere specific depending on what neighborhood you were in to go get it or a friend who had it and you have to go to your friend to listen to it.

00:36:13: and then when we transitioned into digital early two thousand.

00:36:17: sorry about that.

00:36:19: I remember Dat Piff going crazy and so we did have this like mini renaissance of like crazy numbers on Dat Piff and like.

00:36:31: I think the height of that was really like Chance the Rapper's acid rap going crazy and then ending up getting Grammy nominated but then they disqualified him because it was a mixtape, crazy stuff like that.

00:36:44: I remember that and then that changed everything again.

00:36:46: So I do miss it.

00:36:49: That run of Lil Wayne mixtapes that made him Wayne and mixtape Wayne, not everybody like coined the phrase for that.

00:36:58: Jay ending up on random features.

00:37:01: I listened to a lot of battle raps.

00:37:04: You know, people just ending up popping up on different people's records and just that element of it's coming organically from the street, from the people, from the circles and the ciphers.

00:37:18: Mix tapes always carried that and I will always miss that because again that goes back to the soul of what we do.

00:37:25: So it's like we can't go back.

00:37:29: You can't recreate what was original or what was unique there, but we can go forward.

00:37:36: and who's to say, you know, what the next thing will be, you know?

00:37:41: Yep, yep.

00:37:42: In those days that you had to be there, you know, like you said, you mentioned they were playing with the dedication, mixtapes, also guys like Mick Mill.

00:37:51: Joe Wadden, Tata Buck, the mood music, yeah man.

00:37:55: Ransom too with DJ Clue, you know Ransom family.

00:37:59: Oh my god, the Clue tapes, forget about it.

00:38:01: Oh my god, forget about

00:38:05: it.

00:38:06: Yup.

00:38:06: I remember I had some problems with that paper.

00:38:08: It's funny that you mentioned that because, you know, I was heavy on the mixtape studio.

00:38:11: That's why I created it.

00:38:12: I'm sure

00:38:12: you did have some problems with that paper.

00:38:16: Yeah,

00:38:16: we received letters from Warner Brothers, you know, many times.

00:38:19: Oh, boy, yeah.

00:38:20: You better shut that paper account.

00:38:22: so we're going to shut all your accounts.

00:38:24: I never shut anything down.

00:38:25: There's a lot of shit down.

00:38:27: You know, that shows you the power of mixtapes and the power

00:38:30: of paper.

00:38:31: Exactly.

00:38:31: Yeah, yep, yep.

00:38:31: Exactly, yeah.

00:38:34: We had to be paying attention to it at that point.

00:38:36: But the numbers were so great.

00:38:38: And it's like at that point, the numbers was crazy.

00:38:41: But the numbers was crazy because for the first time, we could see numbers.

00:38:44: Imagine all the numbers we'll never see because those kinds of things didn't exist.

00:38:49: So, yeah, absolutely.

00:38:51: And who else?

00:38:52: We said the food tapes.

00:38:52: Who else came to my spirit on that?

00:38:56: Ah, man.

00:38:57: Green

00:38:57: Lantern too,

00:38:58: for example.

00:38:58: Green Lantern, who kid?

00:39:00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:01: Who care, Green Lantern, Kay Slay?

00:39:03: That was my introduction to Papoose.

00:39:06: That was one example where... Like I was so into Pap.

00:39:10: This is before, it's way before any type of mainstream, nothing.

00:39:13: Like you barely even saw what he looked like, but we was listening and he was so hot in the street.

00:39:19: But the thing was he was super hot in Brooklyn and I was in Harlem.

00:39:24: But I was like, I used to listen to K-Slade deep, deep at night.

00:39:27: He used to come on like one, I guess that's not so deep, but like he used to come on like one in the morning and he'd always have Papoose on his show or like some pap record.

00:39:36: And I had to know some guys who lived out in Brooklyn.

00:39:40: And I literally traveled on the train.

00:39:43: I'm not saying I didn't like these guys, they were fine.

00:39:45: But it's like, they weren't like my super best friends.

00:39:48: I was not going to see them.

00:39:49: I was literally going there to listen to the Papoose mixtape, literally.

00:39:55: So that is like, talk about the power of music.

00:39:59: You traveled to listen just to hear a record.

00:40:03: And for me, that is like the closest I would have gotten to when hip hop was new and you know they were seeing bombed out trains every day and like you know the The Apache record hit for the first time and you know, we'll never know what that unless you were there like you'll never know what that feels like.

00:40:28: but we've had like little sprinkles of it along the way and I don't want to say like I'm the last generation of that but like I got to see the last of cassettes and see if we're coming back around obviously but I got to see the last cassettes and CDs I got to see the last of mixtapes I got to see the last of a lot of the radio personalities that became household names and these DJs who, you know, forget it, now they're on Serious XM and do a huge thing and stuff, but they were, like you said, these were mixtape.

00:40:59: These were mixt shows.

00:41:00: These were in the hood DJing parties and in backyards and armories and gyms and, you know, unlabeled things.

00:41:12: So it's exciting and I do hold those memories very dear and I hope that I never lose that, especially as a hip-hop artist.

00:41:23: For sure, for sure.

00:41:24: You know, it's a life experience that you had to get to become the person that you are

00:41:28: now.

00:41:29: Yes, Seria.

00:41:30: You were right about that, absolutely.

00:41:33: And now you're planning on doing more physical releases.

00:41:36: You know, you talked about cassettes.

00:41:37: I know it's coming back, you know.

00:41:39: I know some guys out there and friends that still drop cassettes.

00:41:41: Like, even as collective victims, you know, they just... People keep the tape under the plastic sleeves.

00:41:47: I

00:41:50: got a bunch of vinyl in here that I'm like I'm not taking this plastic off.

00:41:54: I totally understand and shout out to all the collectors out there because that confirmation that's yeah that is such an important part of the culture as well and like you said paintings anything like the collecting side of it is so great.

00:42:07: and now we're hip-hop is over fifty years now, so now we can start low-carats once again.

00:42:14: When we're fifty years old, we can start talking about stuff.

00:42:17: So it's like, yeah, now we can start talking about archiving stuff, documenting stuff, the collectors community.

00:42:23: It's just beautiful.

00:42:25: But yeah, I've been itching to, we have the chocolate bars album for everybody who knows that one by me and Rockwell.

00:42:32: featured master ace in Bahamadiah.

00:42:34: that has been on vinyl and cd as well as digital download and streaming but I have been wanting to put that on cassette for a minute so I feel like that would be the next thing but definitely for my future stuff like definitely always gonna try to put a physical out me if not first you know.

00:42:57: Yeah, I think we're coming back to that now because we've seen the crazy stuff that's happening to artists, you know, with the Spotify payments and all that

00:43:06: stuff.

00:43:06: Yeah, that's cool.

00:43:07: Talk about

00:43:08: that.

00:43:08: I think it's better now.

00:43:09: if you have the fan base, you can direct the people to your website instead of telling them to, you know, check out the project on the platforms.

00:43:17: Absolutely.

00:43:18: That's one way to create a unique relationship with your audience.

00:43:23: You know, I think they like it better that way.

00:43:24: Yeah,

00:43:26: yeah, it's been nice to see some of the, how you say, more veteran artists.

00:43:33: come out with their new box sets and new special editions of all albums.

00:43:39: I know Jeru the Damage has just put out this crazy box set of The Sun Rises in the East album.

00:43:45: It looks so beautiful.

00:43:47: I know a lot of people know Ghost Faces put out Supreme Client Health too.

00:43:51: That package looks beautiful.

00:43:53: Fat Beaches announced they are re-releasing The purple tape on vinyl for the first time, I think that's what's happening.

00:44:03: And that's crazy because that hasn't been available for a minute.

00:44:07: So I'm inspired to see stuff like that also to see people with more establishment, more history, more notoriety, more machine, how they go about doing things.

00:44:20: Because even though I've been rapping since the fifth grade really as a professional solo artist I'm still pretty new.

00:44:28: so I'm a student of life.

00:44:30: so I'm always looking around to.

00:44:32: you know how can I do things better and you know enhance the creativity I already

00:44:40: have.

00:44:40: You know that's how we always artists you know we always

00:44:43: learn.

00:44:43: you know the road is never finished.

00:44:46: even when you're going to be sixty, seventy years old you'll always be learning new stuff evolving with your music, with your life and all that.

00:44:54: So, you know, the inspiration never ends.

00:44:56: Yes, sir.

00:44:59: I love

00:44:59: to hear that.

00:45:00: That's right.

00:45:00: Yeah.

00:45:00: Now, can we expect maybe a mixtape one of those days from you?

00:45:04: Like, with your work from back in the days, maybe some unreleased stuff,

00:45:08: some exclusive

00:45:09: freestyle, shit like that, you know?

00:45:11: Yo, that would be fire.

00:45:12: Yeah.

00:45:13: I would love to do that, actually, because I had a vault of... just completely unreleased songs that yeah pretty much nobody's really ever heard and I always looked at those things like damn what's gonna happen?

00:45:30: because some of them it works for now but some of them is just.

00:45:32: it's just hot tracks which is me spitting or me taking creative license on something and on all different types of beats too.

00:45:40: so I would love to do a mixtape for sure.

00:45:43: Yeah,

00:45:44: well, we'll be here to spin that, you know, whatever.

00:45:46: Let's get ready.

00:45:48: Makes a attic.

00:45:49: Yeah, yeah,

00:45:51: yeah.

00:45:51: Yeah, send me the tracks.

00:45:52: You know, I'm here.

00:45:53: That's a vet.

00:45:54: That's a vet.

00:45:56: And let's talk about your relationship with Rockwell because you work with him a lot.

00:46:00: So how did that happen?

00:46:02: Yeah, it's crazy because we were in the pandemic and everybody was like, what are we going to do right now?

00:46:08: And I was like, coming off.

00:46:12: producing, I think I was still producing it, a show called Boom Bad TV by Sublime Crown Productions in Brooklyn ran by a graffiti writer and producer named Emsky One and he He had put me in charge of doing some of the editing and then handling a lot of the booking and communications.

00:46:36: So artists would come to our studios in the basement, had the whole basement floor of a two-story house and artists would come there and so I would be in communication with their management or their PR or whatever have you.

00:46:53: And so through that I got to know AP.

00:46:57: of the snow goons really well because several of the artists came through and after a while I wasn't working on the show anymore and I said you know what I think I'm gonna take the leap and put myself out there as an artist and get it going like of all the times to start the pandemic.

00:47:16: but there I was and I was like okay well let's go anyway.

00:47:19: so I reached out to him and say hey you know I want to put out a project or a song.

00:47:23: I think it was at first and so he helped me do it and then after that went really well and got picked up in a whole lot of countries.

00:47:32: he hit me back and was like hey you know I have this producer who is interested in you know working with new artists and you know would you be open to that?

00:47:43: and I was like sure.

00:47:44: and when we first talked and he like I listened to the beast that he sent me He happened to send me the beat for what became Like This'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''.

00:48:18: He didn't have to do that, but he did.

00:48:20: So I was like, shit, I got a free beat.

00:48:23: Let me, let me put my, you know, let me really get into it.

00:48:26: So, um, I, like I, I wrote like this, like it was going to be one single and move on, but it came out so good that he was like, damn, um, how about we do a whole album?

00:48:40: And I was like, what?

00:48:41: Um, really?

00:48:43: And he was like, yeah, like, yeah, we could start with this and kind of like, filled around it and whatever have you.

00:48:49: so that's how it all happened.

00:48:51: and um yeah so rockwell is a good good person good guy.

00:48:56: he was just coming off his album um still loving boom bap that had him and his baby son on the cover and i know there's a lot of people who are in that same description of like.

00:49:07: they grew up loving hip hop and now they're older.

00:49:10: but that hip-hop, that love for hip-hop never went away.

00:49:14: They have kids, they may have wives or husbands, but they're still hip-hop.

00:49:18: and so it's been very interesting to communicate over that wavelength and also Germany to New York City wavelength and Germany such a huge, huge hip-hop.

00:49:33: There's so many hip hop communities there, as in France, as in so many pockets everywhere.

00:49:38: It's everywhere literally.

00:49:40: but that was exciting for me also because I know how global hip hop is and I'm really excited to get to Germany, get to France eventually because honestly if I look at my Spotify, if that's any indication, most of my top top listeners are in Europe.

00:50:00: I'll definitely have to come over there.

00:50:02: but yeah so me and Rockwell met through hip hop but also in the pandemic and have been making history ever since looks like

00:50:11: yeah that's super dope that you find a producer like that.

00:50:14: you know that's good chemistry right there you

00:50:16: know.

00:50:17: yeah

00:50:17: when you know the producer likes the artist and the artist believes in the producer as well and you come up together to make some magic.

00:50:25: You know, it's perfect like that.

00:50:27: It's good chemistry and the music that I heard is dope.

00:50:29: So I hope you guys keep working together.

00:50:32: Keep putting out those bangers.

00:50:34: Thank

00:50:35: you.

00:50:35: And what can we expect from you, you know, for the rest of the year and the year after that?

00:50:39: Yeah, so we just came off.

00:50:42: It's award season.

00:50:43: It's been that for a couple of months and So we just came off winning the Intercontinental Music Award for the Master H-Tron, like it's ninety three, which is awesome.

00:50:54: And so it's the Grammys are coming up.

00:51:00: and then I wrote a book for those who may be interested.

00:51:05: And it's about hip hop, mental health, and suicide prevention.

00:51:10: And this book also just recently won an award in arts and entertainment.

00:51:14: So I'm getting ready to like grab a bunch of vinyl and a bunch of CDs and a bunch of books and get ready to package those as bundles and things like that for the holidays and go do a few things with young people.

00:51:28: And we just released the audio book of that book.

00:51:33: Oh.

00:51:33: Biggest mention that the book features a forward written by Farrell March, which is also one of my biggest hip hop inspirations as a not just as an emcee, but definitely as an emcee and a lyricist.

00:51:46: He's crazy.

00:51:46: He's he's easily top.

00:51:49: It doesn't matter what number you want.

00:51:51: He's just.

00:51:51: he's one of the greatest of all time.

00:51:54: But he also wrote a beautiful passage from my book and it wouldn't have been the same book without his input.

00:52:01: So There's that.

00:52:03: And so we just released the audio book of that.

00:52:06: It's in hardcover and ebook as well.

00:52:08: And I'm working on a youth workbook that goes along with that.

00:52:13: It just got its first book club selection by the Ladies of Hip Hop Organization.

00:52:17: Shout out to them.

00:52:17: Shout out to all the women in Hip Hop.

00:52:21: All the queens, all the sisters, because there are so many of us doing so many great things.

00:52:27: Hip hop education, MCs, DJs, dancers, breakers, teachers, writers, journalists, engineers.

00:52:36: It just goes on and on.

00:52:38: So I'm also happy to represent for the women as well.

00:52:41: and continue making connections.

00:52:43: but yeah I am also putting the seeds in the ground for the next album which technically I guess would be the first full-length album because they're saying the chocolate bars is an EP.

00:52:54: so yeah full-length album, book, chocolate bars continues.

00:53:01: and Just keeping my sanity, man.

00:53:04: Just staying positive.

00:53:06: That's dope.

00:53:06: That's dope.

00:53:07: Always busy.

00:53:07: And like you say, women in hip-hop, they're important, you know.

00:53:11: And one thing I like to know about working with women is that you don't get the big egos that you get with men,

00:53:17: you know.

00:53:17: I hear that a lot.

00:53:18: I hear that a lot.

00:53:20: Yeah, less of a power struggle for sure, yeah.

00:53:23: We're natural collaborators, nurturers.

00:53:26: We're great organizers and planners and also leaders, so you really can't go wrong.

00:53:32: Everything is a person by person, case by case basis, but there's so much good work to be done with women in hip-hop.

00:53:39: So shout out to us.

00:53:41: Yup, yup, real talk.

00:53:42: Shout out to all the real girls out there doing the work, you know what I'm saying?

00:53:46: Showing love to the culture.

00:53:48: You know, we appreciate you for real.

00:53:50: It's a pleasure to have you on the show.

00:53:53: And I had a question for you.

00:53:54: I was on your Instagram page.

00:53:56: I saw that you weren't too wrestling as well.

00:53:58: I'm not.

00:53:58: I am.

00:54:00: That's dope, tell us about that.

00:54:03: Yeah, see damn, I forgot.

00:54:04: Yeah, that's also going on here for the rest of the year.

00:54:08: Yeah, I started wrestling training in twenty twenty two.

00:54:13: So it's still new, but I've been a fan of pro wrestling since I was a child.

00:54:19: And I happened to train with a WWE Hall of Famer named Johnny Rodds, who was active in the seventies and eighties.

00:54:29: and he worked for Vince McMahon Sr.

00:54:32: and Vince McMahon Jr.

00:54:34: and he trained the Dudley boys and Taz and like a lot of good names.

00:54:39: so he's very very thorough about drilling us not only on actual movement in the ring, but on ring psychology.

00:54:50: So it's very mental.

00:54:52: It's very psychological.

00:54:54: It's a full-body contact sport.

00:54:56: It is not easy.

00:54:57: People go, oh, did that hurt?

00:54:59: It's like a trampoline.

00:55:00: No.

00:55:01: No, it's not.

00:55:02: It's not a trampoline, y'all.

00:55:05: The mat hurts, the corners hurt, the turnbuckles hurt, the ropes hurt, everything hurts.

00:55:11: So yes, my body has become, you know, calcified and used to the pain, but that's part of the training is learning how to fall, how to take the ropes, how to do certain moves safely and protecting yourself and protecting other people.

00:55:26: But yeah, I love it, man.

00:55:28: I feel like If I didn't love it, it would not.

00:55:31: It's dangerous.

00:55:32: It's expensive.

00:55:34: And it's so demanding that it's like you have to love it to be a part of it.

00:55:39: And I'm having a great time doing shows every once in a while.

00:55:44: I'm getting a little bit more loved now that I've been able to come out.

00:55:49: And people really want to see women a lot more as well.

00:55:53: So that's exciting.

00:55:54: Like people, when we go out to shows and they're like, yo, are women wrestling on this card or not?

00:55:58: Because we came to see you.

00:56:01: So that's been cool.

00:56:02: And I get to represent my birth country, which is Uganda.

00:56:06: And that's awesome.

00:56:07: So I usually come out with my flag.

00:56:09: I'm usually rude and nasty, but that kind of works because I'm usually really nice.

00:56:15: Otherwise, I'm sure y'all could seem like a nice person, right?

00:56:19: So I get to be nice and mean and ugly and violent in the ring.

00:56:23: And that is wonderful therapy for me.

00:56:25: Very wonderful.

00:56:26: So shout out to my world of unpredictable wrestling family.

00:56:31: We train at Gleason's gym in Brooklyn.

00:56:34: And my wrestling name is the Wild Lady, Lennox Leto.

00:56:39: Okay, nice.

00:56:40: Nice.

00:56:41: I had to ask you about that because I'm a big wrestling fan, you know, so Are you?

00:56:46: Yeah, since I was a kid, you know, my favorite of all time is the Undertaker, you know.

00:56:51: Oh, okay, okay.

00:56:52: Yeah, I got the spirits

00:56:52: of the guy, you know what I'm saying?

00:56:54: I'm a fan of wrestling.

00:56:55: I still watch it.

00:56:56: Yesterday I was watching wrestling too, you know.

00:56:59: So I hope to see you in the ring soon when I get to the States.

00:57:02: That'd be cool.

00:57:03: Yeah, that'd

00:57:03: be fire.

00:57:05: Yeah, yeah.

00:57:06: Awesome.

00:57:07: That's dope, that's dope.

00:57:08: Well, do you have any last words for your fans across the globe, Emma?

00:57:11: I

00:57:12: just want to say thank y'all for loving hip-hop and music.

00:57:15: Thank y'all for listening to the Mixtape Attic show and supporting everything they're doing up there.

00:57:20: Thank you for taking care of yourselves, man.

00:57:23: This is a crazy time.

00:57:24: It's really easy to crash out.

00:57:26: It's really easy to put negativity on other people just because you're not feeling that great.

00:57:32: And this is why it's really important to take care of your mental health.

00:57:35: Try to get a little bit more rest.

00:57:37: Try to take time away if you're stressed.

00:57:39: Try to put, you know, that energy into something creative or something with you know joyful children or something with nature or reading.

00:57:49: different kinds of books or watching a different kind of documentary.

00:57:53: Just whatever you gotta do, man, maintain your soul, maintain your health because that's the most important thing and you're gonna need that mental stamina out here.

00:58:03: Like my book said, y'all not gonna make me lose my mind.

00:58:06: Don't lose your mind out here, y'all.

00:58:08: So we love you and you're not alone and everything will get better.

00:58:13: Just believe in the best of who you are and the things you love.

00:58:19: That's dope.

00:58:19: That's dope right there.

00:58:21: I couldn't tell better.

00:58:22: You know, that's real talk.

00:58:23: Mental health is super important and you're right.

00:58:26: You know, we love everybody and we wish everybody nothing but success.

00:58:30: Stay on the right track.

00:58:32: Stay positive.

00:58:33: And we are here.

00:58:34: Thank you,

00:58:35: Emma.

00:58:35: Thank you.

00:58:36: Peace.

00:58:38: Can't

00:58:38: flow.

00:58:38: Take care.

00:58:39: And I'll see you in the ring soon.

00:58:40: See

00:58:41: me in the ring.

00:58:42: Peace.